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ESPN ESPN has no shortage of female hosts and analysts across the board. The Sun website is regulated by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO), Our journalists strive for accuracy but on occasion we make mistakes. AnthonyTheBg 2 yr. ago. The rivalry between Shannon Sharpe and the Grizzlies is alive and well. Six teams XFL viewership slid, but Week 3 will be a key barometer for the league going forward. A big part of this shift sees ESPN content executives Stephanie Druley, David Roberts and Norby Williamson now reporting to Magnus instead of Jimmy Pitaro. document.getElementById("ak_js_1").setAttribute("value",(new Date()).getTime()); document.getElementById("ak_js_2").setAttribute("value",(new Date()).getTime()); This quiz tests your overall knowledge in the English Premier League. Moyes was fined 30,000 by the FA. The NFL is the biggest ratings generator for networks and a woman has never been a mainstay in an NFL booth. 'This is not a hill you want to die on, that women have annoying squeaky voices, when you yourself have an annoying squeaky voice. If it's down to the personality then please Sky can we have Katherine Ryan on board for the up-coming NZ 20-20series? In addition, she commentated at the 2011 FIFA Womens World Cup. Susanna tried to draw the heated debate to a close, remarking: 'God forbid a woman could talk for ninety minutes it's something I can only dream of.'. 12. I just want to go and do my job, Smith tells i. Its not just a tick box.. Time moves on but I am saddened by Sky's decision to put the likes of Gower and Botham out to grass,especially asit has even been suggested that there is a degree of 'tokenism' in this move in order to slot a female into the role. Viza has in-depth knowledge of Spanish Womens Football. ', Outrage: Cundy's comments have sparked a backlash on Twitter, with presenter Jacqui Oatley and footballer Fran Kirby tweeting their disappointment. It has nothing to do with gender though, I've never liked Michael Owen as as a commentator and Troy Deeney had a bit of a nightmare on Soccer Saturday a few weeks back but then again like the Carney last nightthese people don't have the years and years of experience that the others do. But what message does it send to the millions of female football fans when the commentary and punditry is exclusively male? Indy, October 24, 2019 in Main Discussion - Norwich City. Some absolutely awful male commentators.Clive Tyldesley being the absolute rock bottom. Sorry ladies! This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. Absolutely superb. That we should, forevermore, ban talented female football players from speaking on any coverage of the mens World Cup? New MLB local media department executives Doug Johnson, Greg Pennell, and Kendall Burgess all have long RSN experience. When it gets exciting, and her tone also goes up its actually uncomfortable to listen to. People (me) have reacted to a post saying women shouldn't commentate on mens football. She began doing play-by-play for NFL games in 2017 and became the first woman to call a nationally televised NFL game. The female commentators in this years mens World Cup Eni Aluko and Alex Scott have done an outstanding job of navigating the patronising minefield of the punditry box. If a woman is the best person for the job, then great. Had to turn the volume off! He said: Theres no doubt there are quite a lot of women around now who know an awful lot about football. The thing about the 'dinosaurs' like 'Beefy' and 'The Lord' is that they have been there and done it. Co-host Susanna Reid was similarly unimpressed by Jason's opinion, pointing out that when his voice was compared in pitch to Sparks' it was actually in the same range. We told you. Only someone who expects less of women would miss those glaring credentials. Beaming Princess of Wales watches a young boy backflip during St David's Day Lovely in lilac! Its sad that was the first time thats ever happened, but I thought Id tweet about it because it is a positive thing., Both Sanderson and Smith express frustration at the idea that women pundits are a tick box exercise for broadcasters, a criticism they both receive regularly. Now you see what we see. She has also covered international women's football fixtures, including the Euro 2017 qualifiers and The Women's Football Show. That's all . The temperature under my collar has been known to rise on occasions and I have even once turned the sound down to avoid the 'screecher' recently employed by Channel Four. 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Then you have the technical ones.like Davies and Motson, countered by the ones like Pearce who like to colour the commentary a bit. In her 192 caps on the team, she scored 30 goals playing primarily as a defender and sometimes a midfielder. Apart from being a football manager, Hayes works as a pundit and commentator for ITV. Ask Lil. "Lets see if he can use that big ole fanny.". But GMB host Piers Morgan warned that Jason had picked the 'wrong battle', and branded him a 'sexist pig' for suggesting women couldn't do a good job of commentating on a match. 4 minutes ago, Graham Paddons Beard said: 26 minutes ago, Graham Paddons Beard said: Copyright Archant Community Media Limited, Read all the latest news on the Pinkun.com. Theyve got it on the massive TVs at work. He said: 'It was getting a wee bit naughty at the end there so just watch yourself. I have some photos available if required. North East-born sports presenter Vicki Sparks, 29, made history this week as the first ever woman to commentate live on a World Cup game for British television. David Moyes threatens to slap the BBC's Vicki Sparks. Ive never kicked a football on a professional or even a semi professional level but I still reckon I could a better job than this wanker. Plaintiff Victoria Russell, a former NFL Films HR employee, claims she saw categories in their system that included cheerleader buttocks, cheerleaders rear end, close up of cheerleaders breasts; cleavage shot, random woman, cleavage shot, and more. @westhamutdnow: Karen Carney is painful to listen to on the commentary, @PerrinPhilip: Sorry but cant watch that west ham game with Karen carney commentating voice is cringey and fukin annoying. Davies, 80, said: Theyre a tough listen because we havent heard them in the past. Its getting to the stage that fans are now taking to BT Sports social media pages to ask for her to be replaced. Report Crawford October 26, 2019 1:02 PM BST. And I agree on the likes of Owen and some other ex players being as bad with commentary, the days of quality commentary have gone its all about getting ex players in with their opinions. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. 2019 and people still write this? Obviously there is a major difference between Radio and TV. Couldn't give a shoite if the commentator is m or f as long as they dont hype and tell it like it is. What even is the logical conclusion to Kelners argument? Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Sue Smith was the first woman pundit to speak about the mens game on the BBCs Final Score and Skys Soccer Saturday and she has seen dramatic changes since she began her media career over a decade ago. Tracey Cox asks men the Hannah Betts' Better not younger: Secret to longer, thicker locks? Thats totally wrong, Ive never said they shouldnt commentate on mens football Isaid that they shouldnt be given the job just to please the equality brigade! ', Good Morning Britain airs weekdays on ITV from 6am. I tend to like ex-players in those positions. However, we're now getting token women on every pundit panel and the vast majority talk pish. A former footballer has come under fire after claiming women's voices are 'too high pitched' for match commentary. Martin Tyler is shit, may as well be commentating on paint drying, Peter Drury, shouts too much and hypes up a game with too much nostalgia and romance. Michael Owen sends me to sleep and Mark Lawrenson just shrugs and grunts. Attendances say no one gives a crap. Ward is essentially a misinformed madame with a microphone. To be honest, I just want to identify the players more than anything. In addition, she is a World Cup champion and a two-time Olympic gold medalist. Theres a few male commentators just as bad! With 260 goals, who is the Premier League's all-time top scorer? Scurry was the starting goalkeeper for the United States womens national soccer team at the 1995 World Cup and 1996 Summer Olympics. Makes me smile when people get all sensitive about this and say its sexist, turn on sky sports news and try to convince me that most of those girls looks didnt play a part in them getting the job. From online sexist comments to even clubs calling out individual female pundits for their analysis, the path to equality has taken its toll on some of its history-makers. However, there are a few female commentators in the game. We are no longer in the 70s and its time for the football world to move on and get rid of these dinosaur views. The fastest goal scored in Premier League history came in 7.69 seconds. After the tournament, she earned a lot of positive reviews that helped and propelled her to further success. If I don't like the commentators I hit the mute button. 0. Praising Jeff Hendrick have having a great second half was one of the talking points from fans online. "', 'Your annoyance appears to be that they have "too pitchy" voices, even though yours is pitchy, which seems to make you a sexist pig. I'm no fan of the female commentator in the game thus far. It comes just days after Karen Carney was on commentary again, covering Chelseas game against Luton Town on Sunday afternoon. At the end of the day it's the audience appeal that matters in football or any sport. LEAD COLLEGE FOOTBALL & BASKETBALL PLAY-BY-PLAY ANNOUNCER. Three players share the record for most Premier League red cards (8). The F1 season starts with the Bahrain Grand Prix, Sunday at 10 AM ET on ESPN and ESPN+. Beth Mowins is a God-awful play by play announcer with a weak voice who really . This is fair! Most US English commentators are rubbish. Scott will become the first woman to feature as a commentator on the soccer video game. Or, asGuardiancolumnistHadley Freeman tweets, does Kelners bizarre future require Crufts to be solely covered by dogs? The broadcaster was the voice of BBC One's coverage of the Portugal v Morocco clash on Wednesday. In 2014, Eni Aluko became Match of the Day's first female pundit; in 2018 Vicky Sparks became the first woman to commentate on a World Cup match on British television and in the same year, Alex . And in 2018, when Alex Scott and Eniola Aluko became the first women pundits at a mens World Cup for the BBC, despite glowing reviews from some, others still questioned their presence. ', Earlier this week, BBC presenter Dan Walker praised the performance of Miss Sparks on her debut with the words: 'Well played Vicki Sparks. The Goals came in 2 minutes 56 seconds for Southampton vs Aston Villa in 2015. When I was younger I didnt see a Karen Carney on the TV or a Sue Smith. She is 5 ft 7 and I suspect you wouldnt feel a thing. Dont get bent out of shape! It's simply a matter of how good they are and there are many factors to this ranging from John Motson's Encyclopedia Britannica-style approach to Brian Moore's cool analytical and almost personal approach. Womens football is a very different game from that played at the [mens] World Cup, writes Kelner, who does not play this mythical sport known as womens football. In addition, Gonzalez played for the Mexico womens national football team from 19982011 and for the Boston Breakers in the Womens United Soccer Association from 20022003. Tyldesley seems to go out of his way to be annoying as though hes supposed to be stating the obvious all the time whilst throwing in a bit of his wishywashy, non commital (usually bo*****s) opinion. The humour was notably absent andit was largely superficial 'see and say' commentary. @FplPhantom: Is there actually anyone worse to listen to for 90 minutes than Karen Carney on @btsportfootball absolute nonsense just falls out her mouth. "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. You must log in or register to reply here. Imagine her and Carragher commenting on the same game! Sparks is the first woman to commentate live on a World Cup game for British TV. Elizabeth Mowins (born May 26, 1967) is an American play-by-play announcer and sports journalist for ESPN, CBS, and Marquee Sports Network. Hardly ever adds useful insight. Gruden paired with Mike Tirico on MNF for several years after ESPN got the rights. Sports broadcaster Lyndsey Hooper, joining Cundy on the ITV daytime show, was argued there should be more women allowed to commentate on sport, particularly the World Cup. Privacy Policy. @FearonNiks: Karen Carney is a SHAMBOLIC commentator, and it has nothing to do with her being female!!! Safest Bet in Sports: Men Complaining About a Female Announcer's Voice. Despite the domination of men in the football commentating business, these women listed here are arguably the most popular among their gender. It would seem her skills as a pundit and reporter hasnt gone down too well again with many stating they just cant watch the match with the sound on because of her. They just looked down and shuffled their feet. Scott, who earned over 100 England caps, will also become the first woman to host the BBCs Football Focus. P.S. And I think your football career probably sets you up for that you get used to getting that constructive criticism. The same for men too. Part of the Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday & Metro Media Group, PrettyLittleThing - Offers on women's clothing, Get inspired by the newest styles and offers, Click through for ASOS promo codes this Autumn, Spend less with Missguided's exclusive codes, Treat yourself to offers on make-up and accessories, Check out the latest Wayfair sale to save on furniture. A newsletter showcasing the finest writing from the ideas section, covering political ideas, philosophy, criticism and intellectual history - sent every Wednesday. The 48-year-old pundit is now facing a backlash after footballer Fran Kirby claimed he was stuck in the 'dinosaur ages' while presenter Jacqui Oatley said it was 'frustrating' that female commentary were still being debated on national TV. Now dont get me wrong some great female reporters, Kelly Cates, Gabby Logan, Laura Woods and Bianca Westwood to name a few, but watching Arsenal, i assume itsKarren Carey commentating tonight but her andAlex Scott do my head in, just talking for the sake of talking making not much contribution to the game! The quick and essential guide to domestic and global politics from the New Statesman's politics team. Lyndsey explained that young girls who were football fans now had 'someone to relate to'. The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. Kelner also seems to have forgotten the purpose of sports punditry (to be fair, hes not a football commentator, so how could he know?). A weekly newsletter helping you fit together the pieces of the global economic slowdown. Sign up to receive information regarding NS events, subscription offers & product updates. ESPN commentator Stephen A. Smith blasted former NFL quarterback Jeff Garcia on Friday morning for his comments that one female analyst can never . 14. The thread is called women commentators on mens football, youmade it aboutthe commentators beingwomen. If I was an editor I would try and cut that back.. Mowins is one of the industry's relatively few female sports announcers and has amassed a considerable sum. This column is my monologue from . 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I read this sort of stuff and then it becomes no surprise to me that Oxford University has banned clapping so people don't get triggered. NFL College Football NBA MLB World Baseball Classic USFL FIFA Women's World Cup. Read Also: Champions League Winning Managers who got hired mid-season, Best Female Football Commentators (continued), After her retirement, Karen Julia Carney became a football journalist and commentator for Sky Sports and Amazon Prime. The only thing I really see females doing in the the League are analyzing and on the sidelines talking to players. I did but its dull watching the game in silence. There is no way of arguing that two women should not be on our screens during the mens World Cup, without also arguing their gender makes them innately worse at the job. Chelsea star Jason Cundy said he found the BBC's coverage of the World Cupclash between Morocco and Portugal - the first to be led by a woman - a 'tough listen' during a heated debate on GMB on Monday. Now, though, Foudy works as Football Commentator. ', Controversial:Ex-footballer Jason Cundy claimed that female football commentators voices are too 'high-pitched' during a discussion on GMB on Monday morning, Sports broadcaster Lyndsey Hooper (right) disagreed with Jason's views and said there should be more women for young girls to relate to, GMB host Piers Morgan said that Jason was being 'ridiculous' and branded him a 'sexist pig' over his comments, Turning to the former Chelsea footballer, he added: 'Actually my only criteria Jason, is not that they are male or female, [it] is, "do they know what they are talking about? @leondepreli_: Karen Carney is an awful commentator. Queen Letizia of Spain is polished in a recycled Reiss skirt as she joins King Felipe VI at Behind-the-scenes at fashion week with the Spencers! The average rating for the. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The commentator said he understood why former Chelsea player Jason Cundy complained about Vicki Sparks commentating for the BBC at the World Cup. It's easy! But yeah, [social media abuse] it does take its toll, she says. Euro 2020 commentators: Women are getting more airtime than ever in men's football but abuse takes its toll Female broadcasters enjoyed a wonderful Euro 2020 but the challenges they face. Can you control your erections? Princess Diana's nieces Lady Eliza and Amelia share Fabulous in fuchsia! She is shockingly annoyingly bad at the job, anybody can hear that so then why was she picked for the job? Erin Jill Andrews (born May 4, 1978) is an American sportscaster and television personality. It was like listening to Joe Pasquale! Re Karen Carney. Hayes became well known for her commentating skills at the EURO 2020. Quick and essential guide to domestic and global politics from the New Statesman's politics team. Im totally with you about Pearce, utterly the worst commentator. Everyone, has to work really hard. So to me a commentator shouldn't offer opinion. Because clearly some people haven't evolved since then and still stuck in that time period. For 90 minutes I would prefer to hear a male voice. Both pioneers in their field and experienced football players, Aluko and Scott have had to prove themselves beyond expectations, rewarded only with thepatronising surprise of a male colleague, orhaving their analysis literally repeated back to themby the Phil Neville. I can identify with it. Love, LUFC. However, I do understand and partially agree that there is reason to believe positive discrimination has led to female commentators getting to commentate on big matches before theyve really proven themselves elsewhere. Oops! Our weekly culture newsletter from books and art to pop culture and memes sent every Friday. By and large in football coverage the commentators are not ex-players, but they have the pundits who are. Eric Williams. Karen Carney had a superb career but that does not always mean commentating comes natural. But certain things Id be like, Nah, Im gonna pass on this.'. Thank you, thats my point, as I said theres a lot of superbly talented lady pundits who are great on tv and commentary, but its hard to listen to poor commentators who ruin the pleasure of watching the game through just talking for the sake of it! Mens football is much more prominet that womens football. Hardly ever adds useful insight. After her retirement, she became a football broadcaster and commentator. This site is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Carney has a vast knowledge of the Womens Super League and mens Premier League. . @fullback03: Karen Carney just about to congratulate West Ham on getting through to the next round. ITV had seven women on its team of 31 for the Euros, compared with two in 2016. Ex-footballer Jason Cundy faces backlash after calling Vicki 'Burnt to a crisp!' Gonzlez Canales is an American-born Mexican football commentator and former player. Nominated for the ' inflammatory post of the week'. 'Voice/ style preference is always subjective - to say it shouldnt be allowed says more about the critic. The commentator said he understood why former Chelsea player. Now, though, Chastain is a coach, football broadcaster, and commentator. The BBC had nine women, compared with three in 2016. Lets ask Karen Carney pic.twitter.com/wpOCSR2waz, Alistair Skeet (@marbleally) January 24, 2021. Unfortunately for Kelner, his rhetoric cant save him here. For four consecutive seasons, Hannah Storm and Andrea Kremer have commanded the booth for Amazon Prime Video's coverage of Thursday Night Football . Home of Football. Oatley, who works as a Sky Sports Commentator, is the first female soccer commentator in the UK. Dramatic moments in football speak for themselves.. Piers then fumed: 'In this gender equality battle, you've got to pick your fights, this is not a fight to pick. Jason said he 'preferred' to hear a male voice during a game, and that 'moments of drama' called for a 'slightly lower voice'. After the incident, Sky Sports became more inclusive of women, no longer hiring them, Pope suggests, for their looks, but rather their knowledge. In 2017, Beth became the first woman in 30 years to call a National Football League game. Even at the highest level, women have their fair share of difficulties. This isnt sexism did you spot that first paragraph about how great Aluko is? Leslie Marie Osborne is one of the few women football commentators. A little bit of history made. Vicki Sparks, 29, made history last week when she became the first woman to lead live coverage of a World Cup football match on British TV, keeping fans up to speed from Moscows Luzhniki Stadium. The New Statesmans weekly environment email on the politics, business and culture of the climate and nature crises - in your inbox every Thursday. Its simply impossible to enjoy a game that shes commenting on. The one employed by Sky during the Ashes (name alludes me) wasn't so bad, but I often thought that she brought little more insight to the table than I could have done, and I play pub cricket. Although that said, I do agree with your overall point. 00:17. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. The worst thing is that the article tries to disguise itself as a reasonable indeed, at times, feminist opinion, when its just another, tired argument by aman refusing to accept the visibility of an oppressed group. She could take the most exciting game and make it sound dull as dishwater. The NBA and iHeartMedia are launching 11 new NBA podcasts, focusing on a handful of teams. O'Reilly played for the United States women's national soccer team (USWNT), with whom she won three Olympic gold medals and a FIFA Women's World Cup. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The rest of the guff about sexism is irrelevant, and very tedious. Women In Football, which promotes female representation in the sport, hailed her as a "history maker". @Smarty_Lufc: Steve McManaman is hard work to listen to isnt he. Before landing the role of a lifetime, Sparks told the BBC: 'The ultimate dream would be to commentate on the Champions League final for 5 live. The former England player says she felt prepared for negativity, but one vicious Twitter pile-on made her question her choices. On top of that the BBC over publicise the womens game beyond belief. There werent women doing football analysis, Sanderson says. This doesn't seem to work so well in football, but are we talking commentary or punditry here? Some appeal, some less so. When was the inaugural Premier League season? Shes one of the few females who are into football commentating. Appearing on Women's Hour today, sports presenter Jackie Oakley praised Emma's performance, saying that the presence of female commentators had 'moved on so much' in recent years.' She said:. Just awful. All things sports media. For further details of our complaints policy and to make a complaint please click this link: thesun.co.uk/editorial-complaints/, BBC legend Barry Davies says female football commentators are 'tough to listen to', Former Chelsea player Jason Cundycomplained about Vicki Sparks commentating for the BBC at the World Cup, Ex-player Jason Cundy accused of sexism by Piers Morgan for saying he doesn't like the voice of female World Cup commentator Vicki Sparks, Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO). Do you hate foreplay? Presenters, yes, great. But when youre a woman, you have to research more. However, in 2021 the cast of talent discussing the mens game is markedly more diverse. With 202 clean sheets, which goalkeeper has the best record in the Premier League? But I don't like the idea of deliberately giving those jobs to someone who is the most qualified woman, but not the most qualified .
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