Today, Telling the Truthis heard anytime and anywhere, thanks to international radio programming, the internet, and our mobile app. etc. The thief knows how to how to get through that lock, right? But theres something wrong in the whole business of Church. What eventually broke the culture of secrecy and protection? I was just following following lawyers advice. So its okay. Yeah, I just saw you ran a story on MacDonalds massive mansion in Illinois being held in the name of Vanilla Bean LLC. Jill I learned that from Bill. Bill Hybels and Bill Clinton, you know, developed a friendship over the years that at least what Ive discovered in my research, there was an invitation for Clinton to come and speak at the Global Leadership Summit, and a confrontation with the elder board about that because Clinton was on the heels of an adultery scandal. So, and youre the chairman of your board. In the early 2000s, as Stuart and Jill transitioned into minister-at-large roles and spent more time traveling to serve the global church, an additional voice was added in order to bless the supporters ofTelling the Truth. Pete reminds us that our goal is not to win arguments, but to win people. Those are the good guys. And the people in this story are complex characters. And I feel that way with these pastors. So grateful for those who did and Scot McKnight who came out with a just a powerful, I remember when his blog hit and he said, Every elder has to resign. And within what, wasnt it a week, all of them resigned. Im wary of the theatrical, evangelical stars that are so prevalent now. Its a calling of God. Thank God I have Jesus. I know for a fact that his article was circulated among the staff at Willow, and they crossed the Rubicon of credulity. For the next 90 minutes, Pete Briscoe enraptured us with his presentation of The Bema.. You know, Hybels daughter had her own book on Oprahs book club. Thats one of the things that attracted me to it is that he would admit something that he had failed, like, I remember one Wednesday night at a midweek service, and he got up and he said how that day he had seen somebody who was, you know, he could tell that they were upset and in need, and he just walked right by the person and totally blew them off. Fellowship, Church family, Community. What I saw happen at Willow is, the board as a unit was willing to dissemble in the amount necessary to preserve the organization. My husband and I actually bought our last car from our court and we had a great experience. https://www.billionbibles.com/voice-of-the-martyrs.html. I just want to say this was not someone who acted on any behavior at our church, but had someone who was in the process of grooming someone else. I think it took courage and boldness on his part to be able to do that. In this Milgram experiment, they found that people are willing to do things under collar of authority and that they would not probably otherwise do. I Like they didnt read a book, figuring out how to do it, but there are warning signs that people need to be aware of. Pete Briscoe, our pastor at our church came out in support of the Dyers, which was bold, and it was brave. But it was after a period of I dont know the details, and I dont know how much youre at liberty to say them, but its my understanding he went away for a period of time to kind of reflect and assess how he was doing and how he was handling things. Right. And so I thought it was so funny that James MacDonald had his house in the name of an entity called Vanilla Bean LLC. Stuart Briscoe died on August 3 "of natural causes unexpectedly" according to a tweet from his son, Pete Briscoe. When you have a woman who says I was molested by a staff member, or you have a staff member who says, Bill Hybels just threw a punch at me, or dog cuts me up and down the hallway, those arent matters of policy, Julie. And I do think theres a spiritual stronghold, I hope and pray that it will be broken in our area. Jill and Stuart came to the States from England. The woman had come forwarded, but then later recanted her story. And its like, now someone inside the tribe has said, Something is wrong here and it must be dealt with. And it took someone of Scot McKnights gravitas to be able to shift the discussion at Willow. So thank you. And so, you know, as a lawyer on the board, youre not absolved from the obligation of complying with the mandates of Scripture. But this is the beauty of I think whats arisen is an independent media. A man who "dedicated his life to sharing Gods Word with the world" has died at the age of 91. The Elder Board has accepted Petes decision, and his resignation is effective March 31, 2019. With that purpose in mind, they launched theTelling the Truth ministry. He, Becky and their kids have been part of the fabric of BT for so long, it is And this is a huge problem in the Evangelical Church in the southern baptist church, I mean, just absolutely massive problem where so often the predators covered up instead of brought to justice. How does our elder board navigate things differently with that Pastor? And you mentioned to me that there were some stop signs along the way. And its designed to be acretive, right that they gain strength over time. I dont know the answer but rampant clergy abuse just took my discontentment to a whole new level. And I had a wonderful experience. That was my upbringing. Not so much at Willow till after, because I was so wrapped up in the Harvest stuff at that time and the Moody stuff that I didnt really have the capability or the bandwidth to do much reporting about Willow. Yes, I would view it far differently today. Do we have a theology of goodness at our church? How do you get people to come to church when there are more authentic people in the bars? You feel that they have to have more of a governance more of a hands on role than a lot of them do. And Ive been a critic of megachurch multi-site model. He even cites a conversation with Darrell Bock, a member who disagrees with the elders but who also says it is not an issue worth dividing over. Now, I coach pastors and business leaders in communications and self-care. When you think about the economic reach of an organization that was that size within evangelicalism, my goodness, even Christianity Today was scared to run articles about it. Hes also a strong believer and advocate for abuse victims. Pete Briscoe @petebriscoe 12 Dec 2021. Theyve got a little bit of the guide part. Continue Reading The Upper Room: John 15 Posted by Nate Murray And what lessons can we learn from Willow Creeks mistakes? Funny, whenever I would watch Bill Hybels preach online or speak at the GLS, and he would go into that quavering voice, tears-in-his-eyes, emotional mode, Id stop listening. Pete has offered to And there was also a service at WC where the board interviewed him and was he was questioned about an affair. Glad that Jesus is still our anchor! So when you have a culture thats willing to, you know, exfoliate spoiliate, destroy documents in order to preserve a narrative, theres really very little that the culture will not accomplish at the cost of innocent people. The outside investigation report said something along the lines of, Bill Hybels hundreds or thousands of emails with this woman were, not available. Well, as it turns out my understanding from talking to witnesses, those emails were actually destroyed. What is it that causes so many people who know better, to look the other way and allow evil to prosper? Today were talking with Pete Briscoe, who served as the senior pastor for nearly three decades at Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, Texas, and now consults with and coaches pastors. It is also the church in which Pete Briscoe, my former wonderful pastor, grew up in. Its not okay. He now coaches Pete Briscoe | Brookfield WI. Put a skin tag on it or a flesh tag. But lets talk about since were talking about the media, Willow Creek had unbelievable resources at its disposal, right. The other woman that Mitch represented will remain confidential but both these cases enabled Mitch to peek behind the curtain at Willow Creek and view upclose some of the dysfunctions that led to that scandal. That is not a matter of policy. And unless theyre pollinated by hand, on the one day that the bloom opens, they wont make anything. I thought that emails could always be recovered, even after being erased, by a good IT person. Because they, I mean, they had a massive PR machine they had, they hired Mark DeMoss, his firm to come in and try to resolve things from a PR standpoint. Im so glad that theyre godly men like you serving. Then, I did what all good Christian college students did at that time I acquired a boot-leg copy of the drama and listened to it several times on my own. Below is a link to a PDF of the article World Magazine did on a sex abuse scandal involving VOM. WebBriscoe says that he wants Bent Tree to be a place where people can agree to disagree over this issue. The church is nondenominational and has woman pastors and elders. But its an analog. Inside their system, they need to be guarded, governed, guided. To me, Bill did not come across as a predator, flirty or suggestive with women. So I was really struggling with my faith. I was blown away. I have plenty of authentic friends just not at church. Well, Mitch, this has been read. It is simply to feed ourselves. Theres, theres an advocacy piece to lawyering that needs to be there a little bit, but it doesnt need to be pervasive. WebIt is with heavy hearts that the Elders of Bent Tree announce that Pete Briscoe has submitted his resignation as Senior Pastor. Jesus said, I call you My friend. And Harvest was the same thing. So many people are looking the other way. It is also the church in which Pete Briscoe, my former wonderful pastor, grew up in. And my understanding was the elder board set some boundaries for Clinton to be able to come and speak. Ive even friended a few. The Elder Board has accepted Petes decision, and his resignation is effective March 31, 2019. God uses the weak things of this world to confound the strong, right? And I thought, I think I knew what he was doing when he named it that, but heres why I think its so ironic. You know, people like Dee Parsons, Julie Anne Smith, Julia Dahl, and people who I knew would not stop talking about it and would not stop talking about it for months. Hmm. It manifested even at the IT level at the church. Think about the psychology of someone who could be doing what was alleged by Pat Baranowski to have been done to her. When I came onto our board, the terms that Pete Briscoe used were, guide, govern and guard. And I think policy governance has the governing part. In another area, it might be used to groom someone and use vulnerability as a mechanism to draw people into something that is corrupt. And he committed sex acts with her. And wasnt there something with Bill Clinton coming to the church and speaking? I am with you in this sad place of justified disappointment in the church. They wont produce any vanilla beans. This is Chicago Tribune. This is people who are dissillusioned, who wanted big jobs at Willow and didnt get them. But when Scot, the the intra tribal dissenter steps up and says, This is wrong, things shifted. A person whos not walking in the Spirit is susceptible to that type of behavior, even a senior pastor. And you you actually refer to it as multi-level marketing. Briscoe stepped down as senior pastor at the end of 2000 but remained involved in the church and active in overseas missions. Growing up in a ministry family, Pete watched and learned from his parents and witnessed the reach and power of Telling the Truth's media outreach. Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Part II, Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Escaping & Healing from Abusive Churches, Part 2, https://world.wng.org/sites/default/files/issues/pdf/world_sep012018.pdf, https://www.billionbibles.com/voice-of-the-martyrs.html. Hi. JULIE ROYS 23:38, What I meant by that comment is that unanimity didnt create any problems for the board and senior pastor because everyone agreed with James MacDonald. They made a lot of friends a lot of money over the years selling books, promoting programs, platforming them at conferences, platforming them at the Global Leadership Summit. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. Scott Dyer was the worship pastor at Bent Tree Bible fellowship. Briscoe stepped down as senior pastor at the end of 2000 but remained involved in the church and active in overseas missions. Yeah. And if youd like to find me online, just go to JulieRoys.com. But theres a sense that the Church of Jesus Christ Universal is represented all throughout not just the United States but the world. For more information just go to JudsonU.edu. The Journal Sentinel reported: Elmbrook resignations are the latest to rock evangelical Christian churches. There was another documented case where he had oral sex with his assistant back in the 90s at WC. I wasnt throughout the representation. One of those women is Vonda Dyer. Julie, it is great to be with you again. Yeah, were all saints who sometimes sin. I think its Pat Baranowskis story that ran in the New York Times that actually caused that. Because they were required to move by unanimity. Pete served as the senior pastor at Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Dallas, Texas for nearly 30 years, and he now ministers to pastors and organizational executives through personalized, professional coaching. At the same time, hes writing a book and writing articles for Christianity Today about marriage purity. God is doing a new work both in the lives of the Briscoe's and in the life of Bent Tree. Because we represent their interests. And its not something you can control like traditional mainstream media. May God lead your next steps and may you find ways to use your gifts from a place of health. What is it was Chicago? Its good to be visiting with you again. But so far, I havent seen that. Yet Mitch isnt just the lawyer whos seen megachurches as an outsider bringing accountability. Then, I did what all good Christian college students did at that time I acquired a boot-leg copy of the drama and listened to it several times on my own. Thats a bad default state. But youre right. What makes you stick with that model and believe it can still be used despite how badly that model has been abused? Destroyed by a staff person is my understanding. I appreciate your feedback. Multiple services, being able to do it on cue, proves Hybels theatrical abilitiesI look back and feel sick, given all the details we now know from behind the scenes. Much has been written on establishing criteria for board member selection. And if you dont have a character to lead, no manual is going to help you. If you have six members of the Board of eight, lets just say its eight or 10. You can choose from more than 60 majors and learn in a Christian environment known for its spiritual values, leadership opportunities, and strong financial aid. which Hybels assented to including you know, repenting for his behavior and not talking about politics and some other things as well. Now, God is leading our friend and leader Pete away from these walls, and we look on with sadness the sadness that comes when a season you love is passing. Well, to answer your question, very bad. Lawyer for Bill Hybels Victims Shares Inside Story. I know from hearing from men, that that Bill abused men emotionally, spiritually while they were working there. Briscoe Fortunately, we have not had so much as one complaint about any one of our pastors or staff members. The news of Petes resignation landed heavy on my heart. I hope someday I can overcome this cynicism because I need Church as it should be. Like so many of you, I love Pete. 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