Terms of Use Oswald is now well along in an eight weeks course at the English Language Institute and is living in one of the homes of the congregation. Please tell a good story, she told reporters. He shared what it was like for First Presbyterian to have been in the spotlight helping Oswald and of the letters that arrived on his desk. Another car pulls up -- and that's the parents and the little boy. We were studying the Presidents. Baker, who said she was a trained nurse, referred to the plot as a cancer research project. Nice to see you over here. I want to make sure they understand why I'm so matter-of-fact about it. People sent us money following the assassination, because Mom was young with two small children and didn't speak the language. He said things when we were together like he really wanted to have children because "that would be the blood of Lee Harvey Oswald that was flowing through the kids.". Your Privacy Rights But anonymity exacted a curious price of its own, as June faced myriad graceless references to her father, mother and family. She is convinced that her phones are tapped by the Secret Service and the Secret Service wants to kill her. I felt they manipulated her and made her look foolish. A: Part of it was the big anniversary, the 30th. My father is Kenneth Porter, the man I grew up with, the man who was there for my mother and Rachel and me. And they got my mother on television in a live interview - she still doesn't have a good grasp of the language - and they were asking her specific questions about this book. Still, the help for Oswald paled compared to the support for the widows and children of President Kennedy and Officer Tippit. Just get out. The assassination has also been a constant in the life of June Oswald Porter, the 33-year-old daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald. He tried to after the arrest but everybody discounted it. Not so with Oswald. WebFor years, the widow of Lee Harvey Oswald has avoided cameras while she tries to live a quiet life in Rockwall, northeast of Dallas. But see, I'm matter-of-fact about a lot in my life. A: I don't have a comment on it as far as its conclusions because I haven't read them, but I did start the book. I'm a strong woman, but I don't know if I could've kept myself together. They had no idea their church had offered to host her, to the point of leaders offering to pay for her transportation, housing and coursework out of their own pockets. Do I need to be more compassionate about it? I had already written a we got to President Clinton to try to make sure he would appoint this review board from the Bush legislation to review assassination records, and to release those records. He was 99. Very interesting. WebMarina Nikolayevna Oswald had two daughters, a 21-month-old toddler and an infant born just five weeks before the assassination. I couldnt remember anything after he was shot, Baker said. Q: How old were you then?A: It would have been, like, first grade. MORE THAN 30 YEARS AFTER the Kennedy assassination, Lee Harvey Oswald is a name that will not go away. Oswald's girlfriend offers variation on JFK assassination. Porter married Oswald during his temporary defection to the Soviet Union and emigrated to the United States with him. Baker said the city of New Orleans, where Oswald was born, was central to their relationship. See the article in its original context from. He was not a communisthe was a Marxist, Baker said, explaining that Oswald agreed with the theory of Marxism but did not participate in communist activities. Nope. In one test (conducted by CBS News), 13 people were able to duplicate his shots. Four of those people had never fired the Mannlicher Carbiner And more: "There were some violent scenes. Thank you for posting this excellent article. A: I remember what I did during that time-out was, I plotted how I could run for class president and win! Based on U-M and church records, this may well have been Maurine Hovey Nolan, an ELI lecturer and longtime member of the congregation. Because Marina Oswald realized that she and her children could become the focus of attention at any time, she made sure June and Rachel were always neatly dressed -- no matter how small the chore, and despite the fact that the family was often financially strapped. (Oswald declined all financial offers.). We didn't use the Oswald name, and it didn't come up a lot around the house except when reporters would call. Mom was always overprotective of us. I usually end up telling people that I'm seeing very often. I had a conversation like that with her in about 88. I'm convinced that your mother and Priscilla had a sexual relationship." Get New NovelSaving Jackie Ktoday at Amazon! It's not a matter of being ashamed, it's a matter of wanting to be judged as June Oswald and not "the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald.". So she became a sort of tourist attraction. Because some people have called me and said, "I knew your father and he really loved you." Are they going to take after some ancestor we don't even know? A: I think there definitely is circumstantial evidence that could imply he had something to do with it because of the characters he was hanging out with in New Orleans. I usually end up telling people that I'm seeing very often. WebLEE HARVEY OSWALD AUTOPSY & EXHUMATION PHOTOS THE REAPER FILES 218K subscribers 294K views 7 years ago This is the autopsy photos, casket photos & 1981 Now, the word father does mean Lee to me. She was never recognized. I know some people can remember vividly like it was yesterday, but I don't do that - even about yesterday. Together, they would learn and study five hours every weekday for eight weeks. Q: Tell me about growing up in the aftermath of the assassination. Marina Oswald spent hours before the Warren Commission in early 1964. The first of its kind in the country, the ELI was established to provide instruction and support for international students who speak English as a second language. That catches you off guard when you just wake up. As she told the Warren Commission during her three days of combative testimony, "It is no crime to sell the pictures. The first car was The National Enquirer. She however remarried two years after Oswalds murder. by certain people in the critical communiity, so no wonder they are a bit gunshy. My husband couldn't have cared less. I know some who wouldnt hesitate to try to make a mental case out of me, she told interviewer Jean Stafford. I move all the way up there, and his parents wouldn't even let us stay in his house because I was the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald. WebAudrey Marina Rachel. Six weeks The churchgoer turned to her minister at Ann Arbors First Presbyterian Church. As for what his exact role in the assassination was -- well, he'll have to be judged for that before God. JFK assassination revisited and Rachel Oswald Porter. Bentley Historical Library, Vice President for Development records. A: I do. The Advertising Notice My secretary in my last job put two and two together based on one of those articles. "We have to get the Government to move before it's too late.". In 1963, after the assassination of President Kennedy, Oswald was arrested. Born in Dallas, Texas on October 20, 1963 to Lee Harvey Oswald and Marina Nichola nee Proosakova Porter. She also said she watched Oswalds shooting by Jack Ruby two days later. He was 99. Oct. 19, 2013 at Loyola University in New Orleans. The way I finally woke up was, one night he said, "I'm gonna sell an article to Penthouse or Playboy" -- I forget which -- "and it's about your mother. A few letters arrived at President Harlan H. Hatchers office, most from writers who were angry enough to write but not to the point of signing their names. That didn't set well with me. She copied it and put it on all my staff's desks. But both reneged after learning that the funeral would be outside by the grave rather than in a chapel, fearing the potential threat of snipers. Do I need to be more compassionate' about it? Mailer is such a great writer; I was just so enthralled. I said I appreciate it, but I really don't get involved in that. We lived in poor housing or were taken in by others. During her talk, Baker criticized newspaper reports that she said inaccurately portrayed Oswald as a mentally unstable communist. And you know, it's not Lee's fault he got killed by Jack Ruby. She was one of the most well-known women in the country but at the same time had become what one newspaper called the forgotten woman., What is America going to do about it? wrote editors of The Deseret News. My husband couldn't have cared less. This was before wiretapping got more sophisticated. His oldest daughter, June, I believe attended the Univ. of Texas and graduated first in her class or very high in her class. Shes made some TV app A week later, Campbell met with his congregation and explained the executive committees thinking. Tags: Assassination, Conspiracy, JFK, Kennedy, Lee Harvey Oswald, Marina Oswald, Television, L.D.C. She came to New Orleans to give the discussion and promote her book, Me and Lee: How I Came to Know, Love and Lose Lee Harvey Oswald. Audience members received a book with their ticket purchase, and Baker signed copies throughout the day. Mrs. The assassination has also been a constant in the life of June Oswald Porter, the 33-year-old daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald. Well, we're all waiting, and a car pulls up in the driveway, and Mom rushes out to greet these parents, and they happen to be a man and a woman, and they've got a camera, and she says: "Oh, you're gonna take pictures! Audrey Marina Rachel Oswald passed away on aft July 16, 2013. So I called my staff in, a group of 10 or so, and I said: "Yes, that is me in the article. But you know, just because you're hanging out with a weird group -- they could have set him up, and he could have had no idea what was going on that day.Q: Did you ever take the so-called assassination tour?A: Not until recently. And she said, "June Oswald?" Just in recent years; but yes. And she's just welcoming them with open arms. So if I'm able to be detached or seem cold and unemotional about it, it's because I look at Lee in those terms. Priscilla was a CIA asset, IMHO, as was June Cobb in Cuba. I didn't break down and cry or anything. A: I remember Rachel's seventh grade dance. The strongest reaction to Oswalds enrollment came from the people who were sponsoring her visit: the 2,300-member congregation of First Presbyterian Church. Without any sources, national news outlets began reporting that two women students allegedly attacked Oswald in a campus building. Upon entering public school, June took the surname of her stepfather, Kenneth Porter, who married Marina in 1965. If she was led to LHO in Russia and then to his family after Dallas, what does that tell us? "It is my own opinion that she is out right now to make as much money as she can on her relationship with Lee Harvey Oswald," he told the Warren Commission. This was adapted from The Gunman and His Mother: Lee Harvey Oswald, Marguerite Oswald, and The Making of an Assassin by Steven Beschloss. He sold an article for an astronomical amount back then -- I think it was $25,000. So this little boy she was going with, his parents were going to come get her and they were going to go to the dance. For all I know it's still tapped. Almost immediately, she began receiving offers of help money, clothing, food, housing from around the country. when it was going on, and somebody said, "Your father was a hero." And then she was gone. Q: What is the status of your present-day identity? We stayed with her for the summer. As a single woman in the Soviet Union, Marina Oswald had studied at a technical pharmacy school in Leningrad. Oswald's girlfriend offers variation on JFK assassination, Opinion: Put the coke back in coke for the sake of the American dream, A mysterious rave aims to revive the underground electronic scene in Baton Rouge, Why are young adults watching 'Bluey?' I believe he's the first writer-researcher to get interviews with sources in the Russian Government and so this is an opportunity to shed new light on the subject from an area that has never been explored in any meaningful depth. There were a lot of things leading up to that that they wanted Mom to do, and Mom in recent years has gotten more and more involved, I guess because she's getting older and trying to rectify some of the things she may have done unintentionally - like stating publicly that Lee did it. Is David Lifton still working on a book about Lee? In her early years, grocery Two Lutheran ministers had agreed to conduct the service at the request of the Reverend Louis Saunders, an interdenominational Christian minister. After a quick, makeshift service, Marguerite barely missed a beat before stepping up to a television camera: "Lee Harvey Oswald, my son, even after his death, has done more for his country than any other living human being.". If someone has it, I would also like to read it again. Oswald has three children, two daughters, and one son. He tracked me down. A few months later the young family moved back to the United States. When the Session convened within a week of Oswalds arrival, half its members upset and embarrassed about being left in the dark were angry to the point of wanting to reprimand the church leadership. I have two small children, I'm divorced, I didn't want people to harass the kids.Q: Give me an example of what you'd consider harassment.A: When I was pregnant with my first, some lady got my phone number and called in the middle of the night. And I'm gonna be in Dallas, and I want to sing it to you.". I don't know if it's the interview you mean but I have a copy of one with Rachael from 1995 from a publication called 'Texas Monthly'. Oh great!" Additionally, Porter told the commission she believed her husband was guilty of shooting President Kennedy on Nov. 22, 1963. Q: Over the years, you've kept a pretty low profile. She believes that her phones are tapped by the Secret Service and the Secret Service wants to kill her. There were some who were quick and hot to say that what we did was unpatriotic. daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald spoke on her feeling. And she said: "I'm so and so, and I just want you to know that I've written a song about you - and your child. I tell her, "Rachel, for all we know, we could have been living in the streets." You are the hope for the future, Baker said. In Dallas, Porter gave birth to a second daughter, Audrey Marina Rachel Oswald. He wasn't much of a husband, he wasn't much of a father. Its the first time weve seen pictures of her in about 20 years. thanks for posting that interview I had not read it before. I do blame him for having beat my mother, and not being a good father -- or a good provider. Some of you may not have read June (Oswald) Porter's 1995 interview and might find it of interest. If the truth can be found that shows Lee had nothing to do with the assassination, I would feel better in that there have been a lot of things said and done regarding my family that all proceeded from an erroneous perception of what he did or didn't do. Well, there's a travel guide she found out about that actually listed the Texas Chili Parlor and said the daughter of Lee Harvey Oswald worked there. It was just kind of eerie. Given everything above, you'd probably expect his return to be announced by dozens of men in dark glasses bundling him out the airport and into a mobile interrogation chamber. We are very close - except when these kinds of things come up. A review of Bakers book said Baker and Oswald were attempting to create a cocktail of toxins that would infect Castro with cancer while they worked at cover jobs at the Reily Coffee Company in New Orleans. Mom would smoke all the time. I do blame him for having beat my mother, and not being a good father or a good provider. Image: Are you able to maintain the same detachment when you see that?A: The first time I saw it I was very upset, but it gets to the point where it almost becomes unreal, this movie you're watching that has very little to do with you as a person. I also had an interview for Rachel Oswald, but haven't located it. One of the latest authors to wade into the conspiracy waters is Norman Mailer, whose book "Oswald's Tale: An American Mystery" will be published next month. ", There was no expression of remorse, no regret, only an unceasing drive to carry on, fight on, despite the abandonment of her family and friends. We always used my stepfather's name, Porter, growing up, even though we were never legally adopted. Sometimes she could be found on Dealey Plaza, selling autographed business cards to tourists for five dollars:Marguerite Oswald, mother of Lee Harvey Oswald. But I don't remember that. Well, we're all waiting and a car pulls up in the driveway, and Mom rushes out to greet these parents, and they happen to be a man and a woman, and they've got a camera and she says, "Oh, you're gonna take pictures! I don't think that's true. It was hilarious.Q: If someone was to ask you today who your father is, what would you say? In the spring of 1961, Lee Oswald met Marina Prusakova at a dance in Minsk, Belarus. It's a little bit like opening a family album you didn't know existed before. Why have you started to speak out?A: Well, there was a lot of misinformation being released related to a book, "Case Closed," by Gerald Posner. I know some people can remember vividly like it was yesterday, but I don't do that -- even about yesterday. She is very grateful to the Institute and to the Church.. Even an intended compliment could hold hidden barbs -- as when a male co-worker remarked on June's resemblance to "a young Marina Oswald," then immediately apologized, saying he "didn't mean to insult her" by invoking the infamous name. I don't blame him for not being here for me. I was really supportive. She implored the audience to question accepted knowledge about the assassination. Where is your respect for President Kennedy?. And I said, "Yes?" ", on Interview with Lee Harvey Oswalds Daughter She Believes in his Innocence, Interview with Lee Harvey Oswalds Daughter She Believes in his Innocence. ), Despite privacy concerns, she's pushing for the release of all records pertaining to the assassination. I don't think it's relevant to anything we do here and I appreciate you keeping it to yourself." And they say: "Oh, we can take pictures? In her early years, grocery shopping A good person. they went on with their lives as the girls hardly knew their father and are not bothered by others The Presidents were all around the walls in the rooms. Moreover, she lived there with her mother and stepfather until 1957. During college, Rachel supported herself at the Texas Chili Parlor in Austin. But I still have problems in that area, because I date a lot. Her grave was next to her son Lee. Complicating her situation was that Oswald spoke very little English, was jobless and feared being returned to Russia. Others told us that our action was unwise, still others that it was unfair. A: Mom kept us together. Well, that's what Rachel wants to believe. She should send James Files a letter. Where Does Marina Porter Live Porter still lives with her second husband Kenneth, however in private, and is afraid to go out in public. But I don't remember that. I found this on page 182 of the forum, well worth a read. Q: Where do you stand today as far as your perception of what really happened out there in Dealey Plaza? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. He beat my mother. As UPI reporter Preston McGraw noted, "One at a time, quickly, the two women bent down and kissed the corpse.". "We have to get the Government to move before it's too late.". But anonymity exacted a curious price of its own, as June faced myriad graceless references to her father, mother and family. The reason she is here is that we can teach her more in a shorter period of time, said Catford, the Institutes director. Investigators searched his home and found this photograph of him standing in his backyard. [3] They married six weeks later and had a She had been in the United States all of 17 Fitzgerald, JFK Novelist is proudly powered by, In thriller novel SAVING JACKIE K "Everything in my novel is true, except the stuff I made up. (June has requested that her married name, which she still uses in business, not be printed. There are a lot of assassination buffs who have analyzed all the technical data and the other available material and even they don't agree about what happened.Q: But are you comfortable with the fact that Lee Oswald played at least some role?A: I think there definitely is circumstantial evidence that could imply he had something to do with it because of the characters he was hanging out with in New Orleans. Your email address will not be published. Because Marina Oswald realized that she and her children could become the focus of attention at any time, she made sure June and Rachel were always neatly dressed - no matter how small the chore, and despite the fact that the family was often financially strapped. A: I would make a difference in the sense of justice being served. Of June Oswald Porter, growing up, even though we were never legally adopted the language accepted! 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