Thanks for telling us about it. Nattokinase ("Natto") is an enzyme (protein) found in natto and fermented soybeans. I have seen people take LK with NK and am just wondering what your reasons are for not wanting to combine these two together? That mix of ingredients has an O-3 to O-6 ratio of 1.0 to 0.9. I until recently drank a glass of red wine with lunch 6-8oz only. One study from China found that nattokinase seemed to work just as well as a statin for cholesterol lowering. (I think it was a result of fosamax). or is that not possible? For those of you not familiar with fibrinogen, factor VII, or factor VIII, let me explain. Also a couple of cups of coffee, if you tolerate it well, carnatine, vitamin e (mixed tocopherols and tocotrienols) and a good EPA fish oil supplement. That made my pressure after a time, very low. I do have osteopenia so I think I need a calcium supplement. The reason why it is sticky and slimy is that it is a probiotic. I did notice in the thread that said not to take Nattokinase with a calcium supplement. Great for breaking down fibrous tissues. Oh, I never got vaxxed either because something deep down told me to not do it. nattokinase. Serrapeptase is a fantastic enzyme to be supplementing for pain and inflammation issues. 2. However, there are two things to note when doing this. Prior to bedtime is a good time to take supplements like these because they are generally recommended to be taken away from food. (83) In my past I've had BOTH corotid arteries surgically scrapped out. I know of no interaction between statins and nattokinase, but ask a naturopath regular MDs usually know zero about enzymes. I mean indeed natto kinaso supplements and not natto. Cefdinir is used to treat certain infections caused by bacteria such as bronchitis (infection of the airway tubes leading to the lungs); pneumonia; and infections of the skin, ears, sinuses, throat, and tonsils.. Cefdinir is in a class of medications called cephalosporin antibiotics. Take this medication by mouth with or without food as directed by your doctor, usually once or twice daily. Nattokinase atherothrombotic prevention study: A randomized controlled trial. Had the stroke in April 2022 and it basically effected coordination on my right side. If this was me (not medical advice), Ivermectin, lumbrokinase, serrapeptase, CDS, EPA fish oil, quercetin or rutin, l-citrulline, magnesium glycinate possibly internal DMSO but consulting a doctor for this serious situation is a must. Indeed, of the studies I reviewed in writing this article, I could find no significant bleeding risk from natto or nattokinase. Now that he's off blood thinner & aspirin, we are trying nattokinaise. View abstract. His name is Dr. Jorge Cochran NMD in Tucson, 520-546-3233 he now works with a NP that can prescribe drugs that he cannot. I hope some others will jump in and give their opinions and responses to questions ;-). I think taking vitamin K2(Mk7) and D3 is a far better idea. Information from this source is evidence-based and objective, and without commercial influence. I also take Qucertin, ubiniquol and digestive enzymes and the usual multi cal/mag D, B complex. Thus, nattokinase isnt strong enough for atrial fibrillation stroke prevention. I got off of them and now taking Hawthorne berry. K2 does is not a clotting factor! Couple of points: 1. (Not that I would.) I want to clear my arteries but am confused by how much of what to take etc. I am also taking 80000SPU Serrapeptase 2X/day and applying topical 50%+ DMSO to leg 2X/day. Platelets can clump together in your blood which can be the start of a blood clot. I am unvaxed. The Profibrinolytic Enzyme Subtilisin NAT Purified from Bacillus subtilis Cleaves and Inactivates Plasminogen Activator InhibitorType 1. Nattokinase is a potent fibrinolytic enzyme extracted and highly purified from a traditional Japanese food called natto. And if so would you support take nattokinase? I take one 150 mg a day with absolutely no side effects. 7-12-2003; Pais, E., Alexy, T., Holsworth, R. E., Jr., and Meiselman, H. J. Currently on 10 mg xarelto for a DVT in left leg. It goes without mention that you shouldnt stop your current blood thinner based on what you have read in this article. Best of luck! I want to to Nattokinase on a long term basis for all of its benefits but mainly because of its ability to attack the spike protein in acute covid. Ramachandran L, Aqeel A, Jafri A, Sidhu Y, Mohamed Djirdeh T. Nattokinase-associated hemoperitoneum in an elderly woman. Any thoughts please? Doctors also often recommend a daily aspirin regimen for people at risk of heart attack or stroke. These small commissions help us to partially pay for the costs of maintaining a website, newsletter, and podcast. AND take Co-Q10 with it. Place inner yogurt bowls containing inoculated ingredients in yogurt maker and Talk to your doctor before adding the food or supplement to your diet to ensure you wont experience any of these health risks:, Excessive bleeding can occur when you take nattokinase along with some medical drugs. Natto is made from boiled soybeans that have been fermented with a type of bacteria. The concluded it was the Tadalafil because every major artery and blood vessel was clean as a whistle. All this just my non-MD opinion! The role of natto as the best source of Vit K2 MK7 to keep calcium in your bones and out of your arteries cannot be overstated. Have not started E. Recommended another ECHO before moving forward. I have not taken either natto or nattokinase, as the above mix worked so well for me. About 300-times stronger than serrapeptase, an enzyme extracted from silkworms. Naturally, if you decrease fibrinogen levels, your blood will be much less likely to clot. After the Afib diagnosis I was told to stop the Plavix and prescribed Eliquis. I live in New South Wales, Australia, so the measurements are metric. Nearly 30-times stronger than nattokinase, the notorious enzyme extracted from natto, or traditional Japanese fermented soybeans. I am now going to be adding Nattokinase (100 mg) to my routine at night, also on an empty stomach. It did lower my numbers but not to within the normal range. If there are no Asian grocery stores near your home, here is the link if you want to try this company. IF I were ever to take a statin, it would be 5mg Crestor generic (rosuvastatin) and get re-checked in a few months. This extra six days translates into a 16% longer life expectancy. I am currently taking Lumbrokinase (20mg) first thing in the morning, on an empty stomach. While the nattokinase enzyme is derived from a food, it is best taken away from food (on an empty stomach) when it is in supplement form. I have taken Xeralto in the past due to a blood clot in my leg and the bleeding side effects were significant. I found what seems to be a good Naturopathic Doctor (NMD) he spent 40 minutes with me to sort of get to know each other before committing think a regular Doc would? i was wondering if i could have his/her name & contact info. Thanks for all of your helpful comments. Was just curious if you have seen it lower hematocrit? Tai, M. W. and Sweet, B. V. Nattokinase for prevention of thrombosis. Doctor and NP would not listen. Thank you for your thoughts! BTW, I am 58 years of age with ZERO underlying medical issues and I just started back on TRT last week. If a person trys Natto, will it affect other medicines that a person might have to take? Please let me know if you want my calculations relating to omega-3 and omega-6. The enzyme is produced during nattos fermentation process by a specific bacterium called Bacillus subtilis. Kim, J. Y., Gum, S. N., Paik, J. K., Lim, H. H., Kim, K. C., Ogasawara, K., Inoue, K., Park, S., Jang, Y., and Lee, J. H. Effects of nattokinase on blood pressure: a randomized, controlled trial. Glenn, I don't have a naturopath I do my own research. If you are taking this medication once daily, it is usually taken right before bedtime.. What brand of lumbrokinase do you recommend? Is it ok to take Nattokinase as we as olive leaf extract? Thank you. Retrieved on 2007-10-20. In other words, you should only consider a supplement when you cant get it naturally from food. 2 The umbrella term "vitamin B3" includes both niacinamide (nicotinamide) and nicotinic acid ("niacin") to make things even more interesting. Taking both ok? The Hydrochlorothiazide (HCTZ) could cause low BP, if you got to a point that you did not need a diuretic anymore was your use monitored closely? https://www.bitchute.com/video/o5UcxYnieiAW/. For now, I would get on low-dose Lisinopril or Hytrin if the first one gives you problems, switch, but under the supervision of your cardiologist beginning on low dose should not give you the bad side effects or too low BP meanwhile, the Nattokinase/Serrapeptase can be working on cleaning your "pipes". can you e-mail me back. using sterilized spoon to create inoculation culture, 12. It is essential in the fermentation phase to use sterilized utensils to avoid contamination by yeasts and unwanted bacteria. If you are interested I could PM you his story. If I did I would have taken steps to prevent a reoccurrence. Nattokinase may just be the safest blood thinner you have never heard of. I recommend buying Devil's claw and bromelain individually ( I use Swansons or Ebay) and adding 40-80,000 spu serrapeptase to that mix, empty stomach then you save a ton get a stronger dose of both the DC and Brom, and don't get the ginger and add a great anti-inflammatory and healer in serrapeptase. I don't know if taking both in the same day is over kill or not, but they both seem to have very good benefits and can work on different things. I am despising drs and big pharma right now as well which is why I am doing a lot of research on natural methods to dissolve and keep the clots away. Is this due to the spike protein and what is that relationship to clotting? I've also had one heart attack resulting in a stent. CAN WE CONTACT BY MAIL? i have enjoyed everyone's honest opinion and sharing of their medical condition me personally i had a lung embolism blood clotting and had some clots removed but after 6 months of taking Eliquis 5mg 2x a day they have not dissolved the clots and the problem with the medical community they are trained to give you a prescription that may or may not work and more importantly cause you more harm so now i am on my own quest to find solutions to my own condition and it has been helpful in hearing from you all even though we are not doctors we can at least give our honest opinions and i sincerely thank you all especially you JJ because you let me see that i am on the right track. I'll be re-tested soon, regular not sensitive, but the red wine is supposed to mildly up the estrogen YAY! . However, nattokinase is a relatively weak blood thinner. Second, anytime that you open up the capsules, you are going to be taking away from the effectiveness and absorbability of the product. See an acupuncturist, DC, and reflexologist routinely. It works by killing bacteria or preventing their growth. Japanese experts say you can use a tablespoon of ripe natto instead of spores. View abstract. GL to you! Cesarone MR, Belcaro G, Nicolaides AN, et al. This website does not create a doctor-patient relationship between you and Dr. John Day. Nattokinase can promote a good balance of bacteria in our gut, also known as our microbiome. High natto consumption has been linked to the Japanese populations longer average lifespans and lower chronic disease rates. Perhaps his stroke was "provoked" and the risk is now gone? Data recorded in real life support the safety of nattokinase in patients with vascular diseases. Wire the Zio. It has been shown that serrapeptase does not need to be "enteric coated." Nattokinase is known to dissolve clots in cell culture. JMHO, Thank you for your comments To find out, researchers gave nattokinase to worms in a study. Biochem Biophys Res Commun 1993;197:1340-7. All my clotting factors and everything else related to clotting and inflammation came back completely normal. Real Food. I have taken for a month+ and it has helped a lot, and no side effects. Start with 1 capsule of Serrapeptase twice a day, well away from meals. Thank you so much for bringing this up! 2 Barley Pearled Organic 20g $0.08 Because I want to keep my body in a state of natural balance, this is another reason why I prefer natto over the nattokinase supplement. Based on ultrasound imaging after their long airplane flight, none of the people taking nattokinase suffered a blood clot. Krishnan Medical Association SC. I've been taking natto miso for years with supplements after the 1st meal. https://www.medindia.net/news/healthwatch/soft-or-hard-plaque-which-poses-greater-risk-of-heart-attack-168735-1.htm. View abstract. For oral dosage forms (capsules or suspension): For infections: Adults and children 15 years of age and older1000 to 4000 milligrams (mg) per day, taken in divided doses. Surprisingly, this blood pressure reduction from nattokinase seemed to be better for men. If anything, maybe switch off every few weeks or a month at a time. Monitor your blood pressure closely. WebMD does not provide medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Thanks. I would hate to be taking unnecessary supplements. It is for this reason that I will continue to gulp down a heaping spoonful of natto for breakfast. Do you have a CURRENT DVT?? To clear my arteries but am confused by how much of what to take etc the stroke April! 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